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Friday, April 30, 2010

Jose, Can You See???

I want to post my thoughts on whats going on here in Arizona.

I'm a big believer in your opinion is worth shit if you have no knowledge of or experience with what you are talking about. This is something I actually know about. So here goes.

First of all, as you know, I actually live here in Arizona, and have my whole life. So I actually see the issues. They are literally in my backyard.

Janet Napolitano was my govenor. And Arpaio is my dumb-ass sheriff.

Second, I've worked in healthcare for 12 years, and in a hospital, specifically the labor and delivery unit at Maricopa County Hospital here, of which 90% or more of the patients there are illegal from Mexico. They are why I had a job. It's where I learned my Spanish - cause I had to.

Thirdly, many people often joke that I am Mexican on the inside. I have 5 kids, a chihuahua, a minivan, and my front door used to be blue. You might only understand that if you live here. I grew up in a Hispanic neighborhood, still live there, and would much rather live in a Hispanic or black neighborhood, than a snotty Scottsdale white neighborhood. The bar I go to, which is home, is very non-white. Sometimes we are the only white people in there. Lots of Hispanics, Blacks, Somalis, and Natives. And this is the bar I prefer to be in. I actually feel safer there. I respect them. They respect me. No issues. The Cantina is a half a mile down the road, the drinks are cheap, but it is a white, Republican, right-wing, military, "god, country, and my pick-up" bar. Yeah - no thanks. They actually shun me in there - even quit serving me, ignoring me. Because I open my mouth. Especially when I'm drinking. I would much rather sit and visit and socialize with non-whites. Its just me. Blacks are so much fun, and Hispanics are so colorful and vibrant. And besides, white people just shouldn't do karaoke. Just shouldn't.

Ok. To the issue.

I have mixed feelings about the 1070 bill. I do agree that there is a huge problem here with illegals. It has gotten out of control, for various reasons, and needs to be dealt with. I have issues with both side of it.

Argument 1: "They are taking our jobs." They do have alot of the jobs here. However, these are jobs that most Americans would refuse to do because it is beneath them. Is some Scottsdale bitch who is looking for a job really going to be a housekeeper at the local Hilton? Don't think so. Is Johnny Unemployed who used to work in an office and got downsized really going to go work as a landscaper? Yeah, would love to see that. They are working, but at jobs we don't want. And trust me, if our state is rid of all the mexicans, there will be alot of white people bitching and moaning about the jobs they now have to do. Just sayin.

Argument 2: "They cause the crime rate to go up." Okay, yeah, but thats just a statistical thing because there are so many of them. What about all the fucking child molesters that are "undocumented" and not kept track of, who break probation cause no one cares, and then go and murder some little girl? Why aren't we keeping track of them too? I will agree that there is more crime because they are here. Just like there is more crime whenever there is poverty.

Argument 3: "Why are we concerned about them unless they are committing a crime". Okay, they are already committing a crime by being here.

Argument 4: "It will break up families." Those parents chose to put their families in a position of potential breakup when they decided to live here illegally. Its like saying that the justice system is breaking up the family of some mommy who shoplifts and goes to jail - away from her child. SHE is the one who broke up the family by making the decision to do something illegal. Just like them.

Argument 5: "We have rights!!!!", Ummmmmmmmm, no ya don't, if you aren't legal. Rights go with belonging to a country. You have rights in Mexico.

Argument 6: "We will not tolerate racial profiling." Seriously???? Like they are really going to look at me, and Miss Paris Hilton wanna-be and ask us to show our papers. They will not look at me, and have the be the sole reason for pulling me over, or stopping me, or throwing me to the ground. And trust me, those white Nazi Mesa Mormon cops WILL do this. And they will love it. Fuck, they do it now.

Argument 7: "Requiring someone to 'show their papers' is fascist and Nazi-like." But why? Everyone else from any other country, Somalia, Guana, South Africa, China, they all have to have documentation to prove they can be here. And they aren't bitching.

Argument 8: "This is like how the blacks were treated back during abolition and during the civil rights movement of the 60's". Bullshit, don't even insult any black person that way. The blacks were taken from their country against their will, tortured, enslaved, raped, beaten, and belittled. In the 60s they were citizens that were born here, treated like second class citizens. They were fighting for rights that were technically already theirs that were already paid for in human American blood. The illegals are not citizens, don't have rights, and are being asked to not commit a crime or deal with the consequences.

Argument 9: "Our economy would collapse with out them." Yeah, this is probably true. It would. And its our own fault here in Arizona. Check out the movie "A Day Without A Mexican."

Basically this is how I feel. Simply put, if you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to be worried about. Just like in any other scenario in life. If I'm driving sober with a valid liscence, I don't have to worry when I get pulled over. If I'm legal, and can prove it, there is nothing to worry about. If grandma and Tia and Uncle Jose aren't, maybe they need to get legal or get the fuck out.

On the upside of the bill: Up till now, they have been able to cross the border and get everything for free. Not only are they doing something against the law, but we reward them for it. The illegals at County got "Federal Emergency Serice". AKA = your entire bill, for popping out yet another child you can't afford even formula and diapers for, is completely paid for just because you are illegal. I've seen legit patients with insurance go without an epidural because they couldn't afford it. Solution - cross the border. Its paid for. They run up million dollar bills, that tax payers (you and me) pay for, and my dad who was a citizen, born here, served in the military, never committed a crime, worked honestly his whole life, adopted two children, one from another country, had to pay $800 a month on a very small monthly budget and do without other things because he could barely afford his medicine for a disease that he did not bring on himself (unlike 80% of patients who have abused their bodies their whole lives and then are upset and angry that their bodies mysteriously shut down when they are old). And if Abdul who has been here for 2 years can speak perfect English, then the Medozas who have been here for 20 years can too.
Wow that was a mouthful. Taking a breath.

Still on the upside: Not only do we pay their medical bills, we put every god-damned bill board and ATM in Spanish, we give them free education and food stamps, they get all the benefits of our taxes, drive on our well maintained roads, use our resourses without paying any taxes, I have to pay taxes, alot of them. I think its ridiculous that I can't order fast food, and open up the bag when I get home and have a correct order, because I don't speak Spanish. I don't know how many times I've gotten Sprite when I ordered fries, and someone goes without their food. But has lots of Sprite. It is not a crime for them to steal someones social security number and use it here - they are not prosecuted. If I did that it would be called fraud and I would go to jail. I heard that something like 40 billion dollars were Western Unioned to Mexico last year. Can you imagine the taxes on that shit? We might actually be able to pay our teachers here with that money.

On the downside of the bill: I think it is impossible to enforce it without profiling, with out being unconstitutional. Profiling is when you detain someone simply because of how they look. And that is what is going to happen. It already does. Now they are required to do it. And don't we have more important things to worry about? Like getting the hell out of the middle east, like child molestors and rapists? Like the fucking oil spill? And earthquakes? I think everyone is going to boycott us, good luck ever getting a decent concert or sporting event after the bill becomes law. Do you know how many athletes and musicians are black and mexican? How soon we forget the boycott in 1990 after we failed to pass the Martin Luther King holiday. Already kids have left the school where my girls go. Their friends went back to Mexico. And this will just keep happening. I don't like that for my kids. There are good people, who have lived here and worked here for twenty plus years. That just want to be here because it is a better and safe place to be. There is not just principle involved, there are faces and families. And if in order to enforce the law, we fail the Constitution, we are going against everything this country has ever stood for. The Constitution is of the utmost importance. It is who we are. It has been paid for in lives. And will be defended with lives. It is who we are. To thine own self be true. If we do not uphold the constitution, everything we ever fought for and believe in as Americans is gone. This is why it is so important. Its not just about illegals, its about the integrity of our actions. Our founding fathers believed that all men are created equal, that we all have human rights, that we all have the right to pursue happiness. That we all have the right to leave a homeland where we don't have rights and to come here to the Land of the Free. Not just Americans. But everyone. We used to be the beacon of hope for the whole world. They came and were met by our Statue of Liberty.

What ever happened to:
"Give me your tired, your poor
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free;
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore,
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me-
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Are we just complacent now? Now that we are comfortable? Do we even know what the Constitution says? Is this bill actually unconstitutional? Or are we just trying to keep the law?

Its just a very complicated issue.

I would love to hear what Carlos Mencia has to say about it.

Like I said, I don't know how I feel about it. Very mixed feelings. The whole country is coming down on our state for being fascist. Well, you live here and deal with the problems. You are all safe and happy in your white neighborhoods in New England and Minnesota. Would you move to South Phoenix? Walk the streets at night? And those of you who are illegal and oppose it, do you have any idea how another country would deal with this? Hell, if I try to cross into Mexico they are allowed to shoot me.

There you go. That's how I feel.

No one ever accused me of not having an opinion.

And lastly, I am just thankful they are not targeting me.
Thoughts of Fallen Angel at 3:12 AM

8 Comments:

Anonymous said...

they aren't targeting you yet....just wait. Thanks for the inside scoop. From the otherside of the country it's kinda hard to get why there's such a big deal since we are paying for all kinds of people's insurance. I'd like to start by de-criminalizing drugs. Take the dealers out of it. Then go after the people that are employing these people (and unless they are paying them off the books we are talking about tax dollars there that are taken out at each check. And then I'd really really like us to invade Mexico and spread some democracy there. Don't ya think maybe some of these people would stay in their country if our's didn't look so great next to their's? I think we'd have to find oil there first tho. Just sayin. I anticipate a time very soon where we will all have to use a smart card, many states have them, to get between states much less into or out of our own country. If the cops are spending all their time rounding up the brown people what are they going to do with all the other people that are commiting crimes. If I'm a white person intent on some serious crime spree (which yes I'm white but no, I fear jail and prison) I'm thinkin now in AZ is the time and place.
All that and more: great post!!
- nik

4/30/2010 6:54 PM
Anonymous said...

oh, and by all kinds of people's insurance I was talking about all kinds of unemployed don't want to pick lettuce for $2 a day white people in my area. - nik

4/30/2010 6:55 PM
Livingsword said...

Now this was unexpected….

Well proportionally Canada allows among the most immigration in the world with the possible exception of Australia…

We love immigration and I have many immigrant friends as Vancouver is one of the most diverse cities on the planet…

Those that try to enter the country illegally are well…illegal…here in Canada it takes centuries to get an illegal out of the country (well actually many years…often 5-10 years)…and we pay all the legal costs…of course this causes problems for those that actually work within the system…The current federal government is working to streamline the system as it is fiscally burdensome and not fair to those delayed entry even though they are doing it legally…

If your in a country illegally you should be expelled…This is not rocket science…it is the same as a home invasion…

Please note that immigration and refugees are not the same thing…We are exceedingly welcoming to legal refugees…as we should be…

I think I will now go for a jog to recover from this shock…what will it be next?

;)

4/30/2010 7:52 PM
Anonymous said...

aaaaaaaaaand by the way - (dominating the responses here) I do a damn good karaoke girl and I'm white!! ;) - nik

4/30/2010 8:06 PM
Red said...

Happy Beltane. I wrote you a post.

5/01/2010 11:19 AM
Anonymous said...

Here in the armpit of Massachusetts, we have rampant Guatemalans. They work cheap cheap and they work hard and I guess they work well. They're all beady eyed and all have gorgeous teeth and I never ever see one over the age of 35. I think they die off, I don't know.
What I know is, when I lived in the black neighborhoods of new bedford, I lived by the projects and by the police station and it was insane; gunshots, police cars racing all over the place. i hated it. I hate not feeling safe. Right now I am in the center of Fairhaven and I haven't seen anything other than white and have heard ONE police siren since August and I LOVE IT.
I don't care about the Arizona law.

5/02/2010 7:16 AM
Gin and Tonic said...

Thank you for getting some thinking out that that actually looks at more than one side in this incredibly complicated issue. My personal bias is towards the extreme left: Any law that even approaches where this one is going is JUST. PLAIN. BAD.

But of course, as you point out, it's never quite that simple. People on all sides of the debate seem to want to make it black and white, when in reality it is shades of grey.

I, too, have come to the point where I feel more comfortable in the company of people who look and think differently (I'm a white male).

Appreciate you taking this one on. :-)

5/02/2010 8:26 AM
Bull Honky Dozer said...

First I have to say, I agree with you on most of what you said.

A few things that bother me though. (I am glad we are all civil and can discuss this without the possibility of ending our friendship.) =)

This Bill specifically prohibits racial profiling. This Bill only forces local authorities to enforce already-in-place-federal-law. You have to be in reasonable suspicion or be committing an offense to even be stopped or detained. If you cannot produce a valid state or federal ID, then you are asked about your residency status. I was a cop and I made this a practice as taught to us in training. If you are any color with any accent, that is the proper follow up question. This ensures across the board treatment.

Now that being said, did I have a pretty good indication if they are illegal or not? Yes! They fit a profile. Not their skin! But their lack of ability to speak English, their lack of knowledge about our laws...

Are there racist officers? A few. Most are hard working men and women putting their lives on the line everyday to do the best they can to protect and to serve. Nobody likes the cops till they need one. They feel chronically unappreciated. And although there are some out there that were picked on in school and decided to join an association where they could exert authority, like I said the vast majority of them are great. It is the bad ones that stand out and make a bad name for the rest of them. (Also the mesa police department is less than 5% Mormon or LDS)

We know first hand about the problems stemming from this plague. And it is a plague. (Situations that made me quit the PD, letting lose a drunk driving illegal after hitting a mother and her baby because ICE would not pick him up.)

I would not say anything about this if I couldn't give a solution. So here is my solution that I believe would appease both sides and solve the majority of the problems.

1. Build the fence and guard the border!

With our current National Security issues, we cannot afford to not secure our front door. Almost anyone is welcome in my home, but I have locking doors and windows to keep out those that would do me harm.

2. Grant working green cards to those that wish to live and work here. This allows us to do a background check and documents them for tax purposes. It also allows us to reserve the right to revoke it and send them home for any illegal activity.

3. Send the President of Mexico an official letter stating that he has one year to build and staff prisons to house the murderers, rapists and other offenders we are paying to imprison.

4. Standardize and take the beaurocracy out of the citizenship process. It takes 3 days to do an Interpol and SEGIS background check. If they are willing to get documented, work, live and pay taxes and obey laws...let them in! Those breaking the civil laws by being here illegally would of course be in back of the line of those doing it the "Hard Way."

These are a few simple things that ensure fairness, human rights and overall safety for all. Thanks for the forum to rant....get well soon!

5/15/2010 9:37 PM

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